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Jay Smith

Nicola Halton Episode 16

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Evangelist Jay Smith talks about his crusade in Tanzania with Christ for all Nations - Cfan.

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00:00:00 Nicola

I would like to welcome evangelist Jay Smith to the Cold Water podcast.

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He's just come back from a crusade from Tanzania with Christ for all nations.

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Would you like to tell us about this Jay ?

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Your trip to Tanzania?

00:00:14 Jay

Yeah, so we just spent two months in Tanzania.

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Five of us were selected to organize our own crusade in a predominantly Muslim region.

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I believe the statistics wide it was 90% Muslim and in fact not too far away from where we were based. There was an Islamic bombing.

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So when we got the news of that taking place, you know, uhm.

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This is actually happening and otherwise you know we could lose our lives.

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So but Jesus told us to go into all the world, not just the nations ways to the most safe.

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As we went, we conducted our own Crusades. We pulled it together in about four to five weeks, which was absolutely incredible on a nightly basis. We saw around 2000.

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People attend, but on the final night there were about 3200 people and over a period of five days we saw 960 registered decisions for Jesus we saw many miracles. We saw Muslims get saved.

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Get healed, people get healed.

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Deaf ears open, blind eyes open, joint pains be gone and we saw incredible miracles.

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Then right after the initiation this town crusade 

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I was a part of a operation called operation Decapolis, which is one of Cfans.

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Fairly new initiatives.

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This is where they plan to enter into the decade of double  harvest through the initiative of multiplication so they have 5 simultaneous crusades take.

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In place at the same time throughout Tanzania, in which.

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Daniel Kolenda would

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preach one set every single crusade so we were there in the city of Oringa for about 5 weeks.

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I was there for five weeks and this was also a fairly Muslim region.

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Also, though not as.

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Dominated as the other place I was in Mtwara.

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So we organized a crusade for five weeks and then over 5 days we saw nightly between 24 to 35,000 people attend these crusades, which was incredible for me.

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I've never seen anything like this before, and we saw thousands give their lives to Jesus every single night we saw

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Miracles, in fact, one of the most incredible miracles that we.. I saw personally.

 

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We were living in an area and in this area they had like a place where their higher death dumping people that couldn't talk or hear and one of they.. they brought their people to the Gospel crusade.

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And one of the gentlemen was healed in the name of Jesus.

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His ears opened and we were told this at later on by a team member.

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So many, many things happened.

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But we had an incredible time in Tanzania.

00:03:03 Nicola

Yes, I bet you're missing that, are you?

00:03:06 Jay

I miss it so much.

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I miss the people like people were wonderful, but I also missed the atmosphere of leading up to a crusade.

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And obviously the crusade itself in the five cities over 5 days we saw 62,715 decisions for Jesus Christ. There's one thing that I did forget

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to mention. The whole boot camp, there is about 100 students and we literally we went to hold kids crusades.

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In Tanzania we could be preaching at 567 schools in day or sorry 567 places a day and.

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From literally we saw.

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Over 300,000 decisions for Jesus, which was absolutely incredible to

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Say the least.

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Amazing, I bet you didn't think this was going to happen a year ago.

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I have no idea, I I wish I've been blown away by the hand of God.

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I've had words have been spoken over my life and every time I thought that that's a great word.

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But you know, what’s that look like how's that

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Going to work out and to my complete surprise.

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I ended up in Cfan in January and you know still in Orlando right now about to head back in the UK soon.

00:04:21 Nicola

Yes, wonderful.

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I I actually thought you were in the UK, so that's that's that's a miracle in itself that you're connected from Orlando, so that's lovely.

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How did…

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Cfan come to the front of you know there's  many ministries out there and

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What was it that

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That, you know, connected you to Christ for all nations.

00:04:45 Jay

Wow, what a question?

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So I was introduced to Evangelist Reinhardt Bonnke.

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I've lived here in my time in Bible College and I saw the their crusades and then I read his autobiography.

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I've I've read it now four times, I'm leading to it now for for like, for the fifth time, but just to see how powerfully.

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God used him and he would say, you know, like there's nothing special about

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him, he just had faith in God and he said yes every time God told him to do something.

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He did it so, and even in terms of what Cfan are doing, I don't think there's another ministry on the planet currently that are doing what they're doing.

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You know a

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lot of people, ministries, will want to keep their

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ministry to themselves they want to like you know, one man holding the microphone.

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But evangelists Daniel Kolenda his heart is multiplication.

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You know, the only way that we can see you know millions of people come to Jesus Easter, literally raising up new evangelists and and you know, like sending them.

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And that's what C fan has done.

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You know they they they.

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They have their boot camp, which they.

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Bring in about 100 boot camp students and it's very intense.

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Just because they go through a vetting process to make sure that you know that you're right for the mission field, because why single could happen is you get sent on to the mission.

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Field and you have a

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crash while you're out there.

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So Cfan are very good at what they do.

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They're very integral.

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They're very conservative, you know, even in their reporting of their statistics and the miracles you know it's it's underestimated rather than overestimated.

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So in fact, our mutual friend Peter Cavanna, he sent me a video of the vision.

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The tale of three dreams, which was two dreams that Reinhard Bonnke had and then one dream that Daniel Kolenda had.

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And then I mean, I was like this, is it so I applied and here I am today.

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That's amazing yes yes.

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Peter Cavanna is a great encouragement.

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He really is.

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How did you become a Christian Jay?

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What a question.

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So I've been a Christian now almost for 9 years.

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I didn't grow up going to church, really.

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My mother took us to church, maybe to the age of four, and then for 12 years that had nothing to do with church. I didn't really have anything to do with

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Jesus, the only time I'm praying this is if I wanted something you know, but any other time my God wasn't even in the back of my mind.

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And at the age of 15 you know I got involved in some things that I should have been involved with.

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You know, drinking, smoking, etc hanging around the wrong crowd and what happened in in.

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2012

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I was, uh, I was robbed.

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I was at knife point.

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I got hit round my head with a golf club and the thing was I knew the people and some of them.

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They knew me and they didn't even live too far from me.

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One of them.

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So I told the police and how it goes on the on the streets as they say, is that you know.

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If you snitch, you'll get stitches, so I was just living in fear for my life.

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I had anxiety and I could go places.

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I was afraid to take certain bus routes just because I didn't want to meet with these people had my front window smashed.

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One of the guys knew where I live.

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So I was just living in constant fear.

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My mother who was living in Cornwall at the time.

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You know she she asked me if I wanted to go to church so we went to church.

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She came up to where I lived in Birmingham and we went to church.

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So I started attending church on the evening services.

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I don't ever remember hearing a clear presentation.

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Of the gospel, I don't ever remember hearing, you know, an invitation to give our life to Jesus.

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Uhm, but one day we found out my brother was demon possessed and I didn't believe in these things at the time.

 

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I thought there is no way that

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this is real you

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know and my mother told me about what had happened.

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They were listening to a preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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How when he died.

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And went to the pits of Hell to pay the price and get the keys of life and death that no devil or demon could touch him and it was at this moment his eyes turned black.

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He started to convulse and literally the demon with throw him around the room.

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My mum took him.

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To a local priest.

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And the priest the demon spoke through my brother to the priest and saying, you don't intimidate me, your faith is weak and then this demon threw my brother on the floor and began to convulse the priest didn't solve the problem.

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But thank God we had an auntie in our family who was a born again Christian and.

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We arranged to come up to Birmingham to a church to Mount Zion community church to see a pastor, Calvin Young.

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And you know, for the first time I saw my brother Demon possessed, and those demons got cast out in the mighty name of Jesus.

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And I got offered an invitation to give my life to Christ.

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At this time.

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It wasn't necessarily that I wanted to really.

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It's more that I knew that I needed Jesus in my life.

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You know, before I probably think about you know what will my friends think, but right at this moment I I.

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Put both hands on on grabbing Jesus.

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That's why I invited Christ into my life.

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I said  what we call the sinners prayer confessing my sin, receiving Christ as Lord and Savior.

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And then I had this powerful life changing experience.

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It kind of felt like I was plugged into a socket and electricity was just.

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Flowing through my body.

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My hands they went like this and they stretched out one like this.

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My legs kicked out straight and then I started speaking the language I never learned and I was thinking what on Earth is going on?

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You know, I've never learned this before.

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I've never experienced this before, and then I tried to call out for Jesus.

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And I could not say his name and I struggled and I tried.

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There was something within me that just didn't want to say the name of Jesus and it lies with the scripture in the Bible where the I think it's in the book of Romans where Paul says no one can say Jesus is Lord except by the spirit of God.

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I couldn't even say Jesus.

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Let alone Jesus is

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Lord and I tried for a while and then I started screaming and then whatever is inside of me.

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It came out and from that day on I felt clean.

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I thought brand new my life radically changed.

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For some people they go through, you know, a process of you know, stop doing certain things but for me it was instant.

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I start swearing, stopped drinking stop smoking.

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In fact, a few weeks later I had a friend party for his 16th birthday and everyone was drinking and smoking.

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But my desire 

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was to go there, tell them about

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Jesus and go home and that's.

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what I did and my life was never the same ever since.

00:11:40 Nicola

Yeah, that's that is amazing.

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I was I was more of a.

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slow burner.

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So I always sort of.

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I mean, I I've had encounters with Jesus since, but I I do love testimonies like that.

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They're really, really encourage me.

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Because just to see the transformation of  like stepping out.

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From darkness into light.

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You know, I think that is just just amazing.

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It's absolutely amazing.

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And what would you say to anyone?

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These questions are a bit sort of jumbled in a way because I this I'm going to skip back to your evangelist, even I'm just evangelistic ministry.

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So I'm going to say what would you say to anyone who's thinking about?

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Becoming an evangelist.

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I would say just do it.

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You know some people are waiting to hear a voice from heaven.

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You know other people are waiting to steal you.

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Well have feelings with without fear or from fear not to be present, but it's simply not the case.

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I would say just just step out and just do it.

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And even for those who may not feel called to the evangelistic ministry, just as a Christian, you know, Daniel Chan recently said, he said, I don't preach the gospel because I am an evangelist.

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Instead, I've preached the gospel because I am a Christian and when you see in the scripture where Jesus touched someone’s life and he said to them, see, didn't tell no one, and he says that that person went around telling everybody because when Jesus touches your life, it's impossible to keep to yourself.

00:13:06 Nicola

God, brilliant Amen.

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How would you encourage anyone listening who doesn't know Jesus to get to know him?

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Wow, he is the source of your life.

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The very reason you exist is because he created for you to be here.

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He climbed for you to be here the very strength, the very house that you have the very life.

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They don't come from your own wealth.

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It came from God and the best you can do is to surrender your life to him.

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We must remember.

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This life is like a vapor of smoke.

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You know Jesus said your life is like a vapor smoke.

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Soon as it comes it

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goes and we must remember that death is not an event somewhere in the distant future.

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Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke once sent to a young man who said I will choose Jesus at the end of my life.

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He said young man do

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not know that death will run

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side by side.

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with you all the days of your life and you can cross over at any moment.

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And we need to.

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Consider this with our own life.

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The Bible seasons appointed for man, wants to die and then the judgment.

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So we must keep this in mind.

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You know the best thing you can do is give your life to Jesus.

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After all, he gave his life in you.

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He shed his blood, Bible says.

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That he

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Who knew no sin became sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ.

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So how did you not give your life to Jesus?

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You know the world will cheer you up and spit you out, but Jesus will bless you and fill you

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with life you must keep your life to Him.

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There is no other way.

00:14:39 Nicola

Thank you, that's perfect.

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Absolutely perfect.

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What is your?

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What is your?

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Hope for the UK.

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My hope is for the UK to be saved.

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Many people think the times of large gospel crusades are over.

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I disagree, you know, we we now more than ever we are in need of large gospel crusades because how are we going to reach the nations?

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The UK alone has.

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Almost 60 or 70 million people. If we do want one evangelism, it will take a lifetime and much longer. You know to win all these people, it's simply impossible. So what we must do is have Crusades.

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In fact, I had a dream in December and I'm not really a one to to have dreams, but in this dream I was in Orlando and I was asked to meet with Todd White at the CFan office and as I'm sitting down talking with.

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Him, I turned my head and sitting in front of me, evangelist.

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Reinhard Bonnke and Reinahard said to me, do you have the power?

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And I say yes, I have the power.

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He then he then said in fact he got up and then he he left the room as I was sharing my testimony with him.

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And then he was in another room, and in this room there was a man lying sick on a on a.

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And as I followed him, I saw him speak to the man and say, in the name of Jesus rise.

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Up and walk.

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With their mighty command, and he took his hand, and he helped him up.

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And then I saw this same man standing on a stage preaching to multitudes of people.

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He was holding an open Bible in one hand and a small wooden cross in the other.

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I then turned back my head and I was.

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In the room back where Reinhard was and I looked in the room 

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and he looked at me and intensely, he said we must hold mass gospel crusades.

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We must see

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the lost come to Christ.

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The time is short and then I woke up and that's been really impacted me and each, you know, even encouraged me in what I believe I see from my own life.

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So this is what I'm believing

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for the UK.

00:16:43 Nicola

Yeah, that's wonderful.

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What are your plans with Cfan next?

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Just what’s in the pipeline?

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Have you got anything in the pipeline or?

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I just just try to peel an orange.

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In my pocket here really and get something.

00:17:00 Jay

Yes, that's it.

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Oh Cfan.

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They are so incredible.

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I have joined their global evangelism alliance up, which is a network of evangelist worldwide who are a part of the C fan family.

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Of course, Cfan they desire for partnership.

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That's the whole reason for the decade of double harvest.

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So going forward, I definitely want to do another Decapolis operation with Cfan.

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Being apart of the team helping to organize the crusade and literally seeing thousands come to faith in Jesus, so that's that's what I would like to do.

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Also Cfan are.

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They're incredible, they're.

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Gonna you know they're going to assist by sending?

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Now that you are saved booklets, when I do my own gospel crusade and they're going to provide for that which is going to be absolutely amazing, the follow up material is incredible, and it's not just the material for the for the person that gives their lives to Jesus, but there's also a decision card in the back.

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And this helps us out with follow up, making sure that New Believers are integrated into a local church where they can receive follow-up discipleship and care in their walk with Jesus.

00:18:10 Nicola

Fantastic, you've just set up a charity as that right there just to you know yes, yeah.

00:18:18 Jay

It's in it's in the process, so started the proceedings.

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With that I've been told it could take about 16 to 20

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weeks so that's just in the process.

00:18:27 Nicola

Right?

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So so you.

00:18:31 Nicola

Just let me know the links and I'll put them on the podcast when when you're ready to do that, and we'll, we'll we'll promote that with for you.

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If that's OK.

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Well, that was a wonderful wonderful talk.

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Thank you Jay, and I hope to see you soon.

00:18:47 Nicola

So thank you all.

00:18:48 Nicola

Yeah, thank you.

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God bless.

00:18:51 Jay

God bless you.